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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.

Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).

Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/
and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/


They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!

If, by any chance, you don't believe any of this, please read: http://www.cheboksaryrussia.net/russian-scams/russian-scammers.html

So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

  • 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!

  • doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.

  • girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.

  • girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.

  • scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.

  • photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!

  • most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiance did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.

  • GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.

  • very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)

  • writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafs are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).

  • falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.

  • uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
    THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.

    MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:

  • she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
    Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.

    She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.

NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
UK: http://www.ukvac-ru.com/document.aspx
USA: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/consular/consular.php?record_id=reqvdocs

There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.

Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.




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2009-06-01, 22:38:58
Steve_dux from Australia  
@ stevehelm

Info on header:

80.2.83.222     United Kingdom (Leeds)

WHOIS
Location: United Kingdom [City: London, England]

inetnum: 80.2.64.0 - 80.2.95.255
netname: NTL
descr: NTL Infrastructure - Leeds
country: GB
admin-c: NNMC1-RIPE
tech-c: NNMC1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: AS5089-MNT
remarks: INFRA-AW
changed: **********@ntli.net 20060724
source: RIPE

role: NTLI Network Management Centre
address: NTL Internet
address: Crawley Court
address: Winchester
address: Hampshire
address: SO21 2QA
phone: +44 1633710142
2009-06-01, 22:50:03   (updated: 2009-06-01, 23:00:18)
Steve_dux from Australia  
@ stevehelm

http://www.projecth...2.83.222

This IP addresses has been seen by at least one Honey Pot. However, none of its visits have resulted in any bad events yet. It's possible that this IP is just a harmless web spider or Internet user. If you know something about this IP, please leave a comment.

sweetalena@emailexpres.com

I could not find anything relating to this email address. The IP address is clean also.
This is either not a scammer, not a known scammer or a new scammer. I've not had time to read any of your other postings relating to this request.

The only thing that would make me suspicious, is in the email address, the word 'sweet'. Scammers us words like love4u, beautiful, pretty, honesty, sexy etc, in email addresses.
2009-06-02, 14:28:18
OJAS from United States  
Thanks Steve, 2009-06-01, 22:38:58
But I am confused about something

I logged on to http://wolframalpha.com and entered distance between Leeds and London
Result: 169.7 miles

Why is the ISP so far away?
Anyone? 007?

PS. Unlike google, computational queries including advanced Math(s) will work much better with Prof. Wolfram's site
2009-06-02, 21:09:31
anonymous from United States  
I got a letter from letter fro a Kristina Valehmetova fro Krasny Chikoy. After a week she needs 980 dollars to fly here to me to be a manucurist
2009-06-02, 21:11:26
anonymous from United States  
Oh yeah here e-mail address she used is sweet20bird@yahoo.com
2009-06-03, 07:10:29
Steve_dux from Australia  
@ OJAS

Regarding your question 'Why is the ISP so far away? ' Could be a number of things!

1) Centralized servers for the ISP, being anywhere in the world. Makes for difficult tracing.
2) The usual server was down and another takes over.
3) As in my situation. I have a satellite broadband, where the server is over 250 miles away in a southerly direction. Last year was over 400 miles in a north easterly direction. Also a dial-up which I use on the road and at home. I've noticed 2 servers, one 50 miles south and the second 150 odd miles away to the south.

The internet being what it is, one can use any server anywhere in the world. Many web sites use servers based in Japan. Or at least pass through Japanese servers before they reach you! This information is a few years old, so I'm not sure if it's relevant now.
2009-06-03, 16:43:01   (updated: 2009-06-03, 16:46:03)
anonymous from United States  
i meet a scrammer from ghana that worked with partner to legalism them self by having friends and both work at hospital wanting to come to united state it was the friend that let me know it was a scam how u have a friend and dont know nothing about them
2009-06-03, 16:53:16
anonymous from United States  
her name is alison kissiwah ampadu no 4 norteiababio st romanrigde accra ghana 00233 smooth talker say christian love god will quato u all the scripture say christian woman will try to get money in at least 3 week of knowing before she start asking for ur money


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2009-06-05, 14:24:50
Fred from Germany  
@stevehelm

if you consider people on here that want to help as dumbasses, what the fuck are you doing on here?
i would strongly suggest to go and take a crap to get your head clear
2009-06-05, 16:54:30
stevehelm0124@aol.com from United States  
Fred U dumb-ass I was letting you know about a spam. So those of you that have been taken knew not to get involved. I caught this spam after 9 letters in two weeks. No mention of money or coming to the states. The only thing said was she wanted a better life and I was to promise her mom not to deceive her. I saw this site after I e-mailed her the letter back. So I thought I would let you all know, but since I have been told what a dumb-ass I was for putting my e-mail address up and posting this without knowing it was a scam, by many people. I decided to let dumb-ass people like you know that I didn't get taken and I don't talk to unknown people on the internet, hence why I checked this out and found the letter. the only one's that have helped are maxwell and steve_dux. so know what your talking about before you open that shit hole and let it fly all over everyone. You all know now so Im out of this site. thanks for those that did help and good luck to all of you. Thanks Steve.
2009-06-07, 07:11:11
hanma3@maktoob.com from United Kingdom  
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Good morning. A lifetime of happiness! No man alive could bear it: it would be hell on earth.
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Thank you very much :o. Overton.
2009-06-08, 04:05:37
Sahin from Germany  
Hi @all
here 1 new Girl

Hi's Name ist ANNA from Russian
girl in left.

First and second letter in German :-))

Hi! wie geht es dir? neue Leute ist immer ausgezeichnet! Ich habe
einen wunderbaren Charakter, ich habe die perfekte Figur, ich bin
allein, aber leider weiB ich nicht, die deutsche Sprache. Ich benutze
einen Ubersetzer zu schreiben auf Deutsch. Ich weiB die englische
Sprache perfekt, finden Sie unter: I love you XOXOX Ich glaube, ich
habe eine ziemlich groBe Sinn fur Humor, und eine sehr geringe
Toleranz fur Quatsch. Meine Freunde und Familie sind die wichtigsten
Dinge fur mich, sie zu halten, was mir vernunftig. Ich habe einen
unartigen Seite zu ...

P.S.: Mein NaiAnna

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Hallo M...... Ich habe einige Fehler in der Vergangenheit, und
haben beschlossen, die das Internet nutzen. Ich mochte nicht, dass
alle SpaB, ich suche fur seriose Beziehungen. Wenn Ihre Ziele sind
hier die gleichen Bitte sagen Sie mir schreiben und ein wenig uber
sich selbst. Ich mochte mehr uber Sie erfahren .. In den folgenden
Brief, den ich werde versuchen, ein wenig uber mich.

Mit freundlichen GruBen

Anna

PS. I will take with you a month ago, but he could no longer
decided to wriyou!

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Hallo M......!
I am sincerely glad that I can get acquainted with such a good person
as you. It seems to me that you are an intelligent person. Simply I
did not think that I could find such a man here as I thought it is
site only for fun. But now I speak with you and as it seems to me
that you have serious relations.
It is difficult to say, but I should tell you .. but really I am from
Russia and I write to you from there. I understand that it can plunge
you into a shock, but I feel I should tell you this in the first
letter. Because I am a fair and real girl.
In this letter I want tell you about me. My name is Anna. I was born
in Russia where there are a lot of bears and Russian vodka. My age is
28 years, my sign on the zodiac is Leo. I am a woman who is tired od
being lonely. I want family happiness with my beloved man. My height
is 5 ' 7 (171cm) My weight is 128 (60,5kg). The color of my eyes and
hair you can see in the pictures. I work as the manager on sales of
home appliances (DVD's, LCD-tv, teapots, microwaves, washing
machines, etc.) I fill many papers, I advise buyers, and I make out
orders. It is a lot of papers concerning purchases on credit and the
installments. I get tired as work like a dog. This work is paid not
very well, the money I get I spend only for the basic expenses. I
learned English at school. I had lessons of English for 5 years.
Then also during 3-4 years I had lessons of English at the
university, and also I was engaged at specialized school a little.
I am a young woman now, and I have much potential of power and energy
whichnexists in me and my body, and I want and I dream of meeting my
true love and to give my beloved this energy. I love children,
different animals, music and dances. I appreciate true nobleness and
kindness in men. I am a romantic and fairly clever woman who does not
like to play different games with feelings of other people. I am a
woman who appreciates gravity highly, confidence and purposefulness
of men. I wish to see the good and interesting guy beside me which
can subdue and fascinate me for ever. The guy who will appreciate me
and true warm feelings. I wish to have long and serious relations,
therefore I wish to correspond and develop relations only with
serious men who are interested by search of true love.
I want to tell you, that I do not smoke, I do not drink (only
socially), I do not accept drugs. I support a healthy way of life. I
hate lie, treachery, terrorism, silly people, mosquitoes,
cockroaches, illness. I hope, that you are not bored with my story)).
If you wish to know about something else about me please feel free to
ask anything you want to know about me. Do not hesitate!
My friend, it would be very pleasant for me if you could answer some
of my questions. Ok? I want to ask you. Would you not be against if
your other half in life was the woman from Russia? What should be
your happy family?
I hope, that my questions do not seem to you uninteresting and you
will answer them. I hope, that our acquaintance will be more
cognitive in the following letters. It is better give to learn each
other. Probably it is destiny, that I have got acquainted with you.
Now I should close this letter, but I shall expect very much your
following letter as it is possible soon. I shall wait for your letter
andpictures!
Please take care!
With the best regards
.Your.

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Hello M...... I have received your letter and I am very glad to read
it! I was afraid sincerely, that you would not answer my letter, but
you have written a letter to me, and I am going to write to you back
now)) I like your attention very much! I am glad also, that you are
not afraid, that I from Russia. I do not know how it would work
between us but I hope that we will develop our relations. My family
is a unique happiness in my life now for which I continue to live and
I aspire to something in this life. My family is my mom and my
younger sister. My mom’s name is Marina, she is 53 years young)),
and she is retired. She is very good mother, and I love her very
much. The name of my sister is Natalya, Natalya's age is 21 , and
she studies final year at university on a speciality the economist.
My sister is my best girlfriend who always understands me . My father
left us many years ago when I was 18. He lives far from us now, he
visits me and my sister sometimes. Mom and dad are divorced, I guess
because of many disputes and misunderstanding. I think that was
correct, rather than torture each other and spoil nerves. I have
serious intentions to find my happiness. I hope, that you understand
me,M....., don't you?
I already told to you, that I am a very romantic woman, therefore I
like to dream very much. My imaginations about the future that waits
for me and my relatives in the future. My daydream is to meet my
prince who has pure soul and the big knightly nobleness who will love
and respect me with whom I can create happy family. My ideas on true
love are a little bit childish, probably, but that is the way I think
and feel. I am a sincere woman, therefore my imaginations about love
seem naive, probably. But I want you know it, M...... because you are
very interesting to me really. You are sincere and kind man (at
least I see you this way now), therefore I wish to see your letters
in my mailbox pretty often)). I am a lonely woman now, therefore I
try to find my love in Internet because to write and wait for the
warm letter. it is very interesting and romantic, especially if
feelings start to develop between you through these letters
(probably, love)... Does it make any sense to you Michael? I am a
romantic woman, therefore I like to read love novels, both modern,
and classics. I like to listen to classical music, sometimes POP and
Rock-n-Roll. I like to dance under good slow music, and I like to go
to cinema very much….especially melodramas (I the sentimental woman).
My most favorite film is 'Ghost', with Patric Sweizi and Demi Moor.
You know this film huh?
With this I would like to end my letter and I ask to answer you my
new questions: do you have a girlfriend? What is the woman of your
dream? M......, please, answer my questions because it is very
important for me. Tell me please about you and your life a bit more.
I send you my new photo, and I hope to see your new photos in your
following letter. I wait for your reply with impatience...
Very
loving dream.

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Hello M...... I am very glad to receive your letter! Your attention
for the lonely woman is a gift. I thank you for this gift. I have
understood from your letter, that you are a romantic man because only
romantic people can speak about the romantic dreams using such
beautiful gentle words as you do. Therefore I am sure, that you can
appreciate a woman’s beauty, the beauty of tender feelings and
surprising beauty of love. It is not bad, that your search of love
was not successful in the past because it means, that the destiny
will present to you the best in love in the future, the main thing is
to trust your fate and to aspire to it, Michael. I thank you for your
sincere letters. I appreciate it very much. I hope also, that you do
not say lies in your letters and it is pleasant to me what I learn
more about you with every letter of yours. Please, M......., do not
say lies to me…I am interested in you seriously. I have understood
you and your thoughts. You are a gentle and kind man really with who
I would be glad to communicate more and get to know each other
better. Therefore I ask you, Michael, to write your letters to me
often because I am always very glad to receive them! Please, do it
for me!!! I think, that we are similar very much and it would be
interesting for us to find out more things in which we are common, or
maybe something on what we could argue))... What you think about it,
Michael? I wish to know about you more and I wish to continue our
conversations through our letters. I ask you not to stop writing me
if you are interested in me really because the destiny has given us
this chance, and we should use it, do you agree Michael?
I would like to tell to you, Michael, about me something else. It
will sound for you surprisingly, but I have no close relations with
men in a current of 1 year. I think, that the reason of my failure
with men is that I am afraid to be hurt badly again. It wasvery
insulting when the BELOVED left me. Have you ever been so insulted to
understand my feelings? Sex was the only thing necessary and
important to all my last boyfriends from me, and feelings were not
important for them. I am very tired of such relations and attitude,
that is why I have no close relations with men for 1 year and I
reject all men. It seems bad (probably), but I am afraid to be
deceived again. I wish to love and be the BELOVED hope you understand
it M......! I have told to you it that you could understand my fear
to make the wrong choice again. It painful to have your soul tortured
really! It is the following reason on which I have chosen Internet to
find the good man because I can learn and understand the man better
in the beginning, having not met with him in a reality and not
spending my free time on meetings with improper men. I hope you
understand me, Michael? Therefore know, Michael, that the main thing
now is that I wish to find my TRUE LOVE in the future. The TRUE LOVE
who will not cheat on me, who can support me and protect me, be a
strong shoulder I could lean…. during any difficult moment for me. I
have understood still, that if I meet TRUE LOVE really then I will
entrust to make a choice about my future only to my BELOVED (if I is
assured, that my BELOVED loves and appreciates me really)!!! It may
sound strange for you, probably, but understand, Michael, Russia -
the conservative country in the belief about the FAMILY. Therefore
the main person in a family in Russia is a man. I am conservative and
naive in my belief in LOVE and the FAMILY and I should change my
belief about the FAMILY and LOVE, but I am who I am, and my father
has given such education to me. Forgive me for my openness in this
letter please, but I wish to tell this to you, and I wish to be fair
with you that you have understood me better (I hope, that you are
fair in your letters too). Therefore it is your turn now! I ask to
tell you in your following letter on your plans for the future. What
is your belief about TRUE LOVE and the FAMILY? Answer these questions
please because I will understand you better as the man if I know it.
I send you my new photo (I hope, that you like it). I wait for your
new photos and your new letter with impatience.

pussycat Anna
P.S.: the words written with big letters, are important for me ver.

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Hello M....... Thank you for your new letter. Michael, you are a
responsible man, and I like it in you. I can honestly tell you that I
understand you better with your every letter , that you are a
romantic and gentle man. I like it so much because my desire is to
find such a man who will be romantic and tender very much (as you,
M.....), and I wish to be a happy woman. I think, that the main
thing for our relations now is a constant development. We should try
to learn and understand each other better in each other’s new letter,
we will may understand that we are necessary each other, and that we
should meet in reality and see if something will work. Am i right,
Michael? Probably we will fall in love with each other. :) I like our
correspondence because I feel with my heart, that our lonely souls
are similar very much. What you think about it, Michael? I thank you,
that you have opened secrets of your personal opinion and character
to me. I like it because it is the truth (I feel it). I think
sometimes as though you did not write it, and your tired heart and a
lonely soul have written it with your hands because these romantic
thoughts can belong only to a tired soul from the big loneliness
which wants happiness really. I am sure, that single women from your
city are blind because they do not see the good man living near to
them. Therefore I will catch this chance to learn you better my dear
Michael)because I like you very much. I hope, that the happiness star
will ascend in our sky soon in the future ,I believe in it ! Remember
also, that I trust you now very much. And the best your qualities for
which I respect and I appreciate you is your being romantic and
sincere. Please, do not lose these qualities and do not spend these
qualities for bad women.
I am a romantic woman and I believe in true relations and feelings,
therefore I like to dream very much. I dream often of the such things
as the sea, a wild beach, the sun comes for horizon, I lay with my
beloved on this beach, we drink dry red wine, and we look at this
beautiful sunset. We understand, that it is true happiness, and we
wish to be only together now, and we fall asleep with this pleasant
feeling embracing each other. You like my imagination? I think, that
you will like my imagination because you are romantic…. By the way, I
like the nature very much. I like to spend my free time, simply
enjoying the nature. I like to float on the river on a canoe or to go
to wood for picnics or make BBQ. You like it, M......?
I finish my letter on it, and I thank you once again, that you have
told about you much in your letter. Answer my new questions please.
Do you like to dream? Why do you try to find your beloved through
Internet? Tell me please about your parents in your following letter.
I hope, that you will answer these questions soon. I wait for your
reply and I miss you already.sweetcanAnna

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Hello my dear M...... I am glad to see your new letter because it is
interesting for me to read your letters and to learn more about you
and besides, I miss a man's attention very much. You know Mikael, I
like you very much as well, and I would like to tell you all about me
and about my life in my letter. I believe, that my loneliness will
end soon if we continue to develop our relations. M......, you are as
lonely, as I am, and I am sure you also want to feel the only woman’s
big and sincere love (not as the friend). When you look into her eyes
you see the whole universe in them and only two of you exist in the
world at this moment..It is so romantic and wonderful! Don’t you
agree, M......? I thank you, that you give hope and chance for me to
find my true love. And I promise you, that I will catch this chance
which you gave me. I hope very much, that you will not forget me,
that you will write to me and will also try to develop our relations.
You are a very romantic man really, and I like it sooo much!!
Therefore I ask you to remain so lovely and romantic.... And I know,
that when love has lit up between two people, interest should exist
between them anyway as well. Also I want you to know, my darling
M......, that I have such interest in you in my soul, and I believe,
that this fire can sparkle between us once. I can honestly tell you
that I have become interested in you seriously. I value our
relations very much because I believe in our possible future
together. What do you think about it? Many men wanted reciprocity
from me, but I have excluded these men from my life now because these
men searched only for sex in our relations. These men did not
understand, that I wish to find the man for life in general,
including soul and spiritual closeness, not just for bed.
I am telling you this as I want you to know me and my life better. I
didn’twork long today. I called to my girlfriend Ekaterina after my
work, and we met. We visited a cinema today and watched the film
'Samiy luchshiy film-2' - very fascinating and interesting film, we
liked it very much. (it is Russina film) We have visited a small cafe
after the film and had a cup of coffee there and, by the way, were
talking long (we spoke about men much). I have told Ekaterina about
you and about our relations. She was glad sincerely, but she asked me
to be careful and not be in a hurry with that. Therefore I think,
that time is necessary for us so that we could understand and learn
each other better. Ok? I finish my letter on it and I ask to answer
my new questions to you: Do you feel lonely? Do you trust in love at
first sight? Do you think of a marriage in the future? Forgive me
for such personal questions, but I wish to know it. I send you my new
photos which you hopefully like)). And I wait for your new photos and
your sweletter!


YouAnna

___________________________________________________________________________________

Hello my dear and the only one M....! I am so happy to see a letter
from you! You always flatter me in your letters though it is very
pleasant…and I am grateful to you for being so sweet) You have told
much in this letter about you and your life, thank you! I am sure,
that we will certainly go forward to learn each other better and to
see where these relations will result us. And, probably, I will
become the woman who you want to connect your life with. And you will
become that man with whom I will want to spend my whole life with.
Thanks also that you have answered my questions. I understand you
quite well, because I am also very lonely. I have no man in my life
who would tell to me in the morning: 'Wake up darling, I love you….'
When I think about it my soul hurts and I become very sad. I do not
understand why I cannot find my beloved? I am 28 years old already,
and I have no unique and important man for me who can always support
and embrace me a difficult minute. I hope what you understand me,
Mikael? I think very often the destiny has forces lonely souls to
meet on purpose. We can’t say for sure yet, maybe in the future we
will love each other. Really nobody knows his future, but I know for
sure that my melancholy always leaves me when I receive your new
letter because I start to believe that there is a man in this huge
world to whom I am very interesting and important. Can I think this
way, my dear Mikael? I am very grateful to you for your letters and
for your attention to me. I really hope and I believe that you can
force my loneliness to leave me...
On it I finish my letter to you, M....., and I ask to write me your
new letter soon. And I set to you my new questions again: What
qualities of character do you appreciate in women? what can you do
for the woman so that she could tell you ' Wow, It was really cool!
'? Or something that can surprise her much. Also tell me please in
your following letter something about your country, culture, about
your city. I look forward to your following letter and your new
photos. And I send you my new photo. I am very much interested in you!


Anna

PS. I understand your doubt to why I communicate with you. I
thought of finding the young guy too all over again. But if to speak
fairly I did not like to communicate with them! Some of them tried to
ask for me naked photos also! It so has strongly offended me, that I
have decided to not communicate any more and have decided, that I
should try to communicate with more mature the man which will be
cleverer and more polite than them. Therefore I now communicate with
you and I would like, that you trusted my feelings because I would
like to find out that it not so! I understand your doubt, but I also
trust you and I would like the same from you! Ok?


so guys that alls

much more pictures :-)))


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2009-06-08, 05:04:14
[hidden] from Salem, United States  
Anonymous from Morocco

OK Morocco
What point are, You trying to make by posting that copy of
what, I wrote on this thread all over this site ?
Then only speak what, I believe to be French ?
What are, You playing at ?
If, You have something to say to me then say it.
Don't play like a child and post things all over this site.
I guarantee, You will not be able to keep doing that for very long
if, You choose to keep doing it.

Agent 86 Maxwell Smart \\'^o^'//

To everyone else this Morocco idiot copied and pasted
my words from the Bill Dorsen thread.



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2009-06-08, 05:27:20
anonymous from Germany  
ANNA from russia


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2009-06-08, 05:28:04
anonymous from Germany  
ANNA from Russia


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