Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers

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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
   
2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
   
3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
   
4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
   
5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
   
6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
   
   ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
   
   BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
   
   AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
   
   *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
   
7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
   
8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.

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2009-11-01, 03:22:40

DUCATI from Spain

DARYA Keywords:

2009-11-03, 07:21:35   (updated: 2009-11-03, 07:24:50)

wanwan from Japan

lilialovekiss@rambler.ru ** Sender IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 77.40.93.166 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637 47.871 - +04:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL OJSC VOLGATELECOM RELINFO.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK ** IP Information - 77.40.93.166 IP address: 77.40.93.166 Reverse DNS: 166.93.pppoe.mari-el.ru. Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified] ASN: 5591 ASN Name: MARTELCOM-AS (Mari El Net) IP range connectivity: 2 Registrar (per ASN): RIPE Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation] Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles] Country IP Range: 77.40.0.0 to 77.40.127.255 Country fraud profile: High City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation] Private (internal) IP? No IP address registrar: BOGUS Known Proxy? No Link for WHOIS: 77.40.93.166 ** http://www.trusteds..0.93.166+ Keywords:

2009-11-03, 07:33:01   (updated: 2009-11-03, 07:34:26)

wanwan from Japan

lilialovekiss@rambler.ru Sender IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 77.40.30.244 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637 47.871 - +04:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL OJSC VOLGATELECOM RELINFO.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK ** IP Information - 77.40.30.244IP address: 77.40.30.244 Reverse DNS: 244.30.pppoe.mari-el.ru. Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified] ASN: 5591 ASN Name: MARTELCOM-AS (Mari El Net) IP range connectivity: 2 Registrar (per ASN): RIPE Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation] Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles] Country IP Range: 77.40.0.0 to 77.40.127.255 Country fraud profile: High City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation] Private (internal) IP? No IP address registrar: whois.arin.net Known Proxy? No Link for WHOIS: 77.40.30.244 ** http://www.trusteds...40.30.244 Keywords:

2009-11-03, 07:41:13

wanwan from Japan

lilialovekiss@rambler.ru Sender IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 77.40.20.104 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637 47.871 - +04:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL OJSC VOLGATELECOM RELINFO.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK ** IP Information - 77.40.20.104 IP address: 77.40.20.104 Reverse DNS: [Timeout] Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown] ASN: 5591 ASN Name: MARTELCOM-AS (Mari El Net) IP range connectivity: 2 Registrar (per ASN): RIPE Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation] Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles] Country IP Range: 77.40.0.0 to 77.40.127.255 Country fraud profile: High City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation] Private (internal) IP? No IP address registrar: BOGUS Known Proxy? No Link for WHOIS: 77.40.20.104 ** http://www.trusteds..0.20.104+ Keywords:

2009-11-03, 07:50:13

wanwan from Japan

Sender IP Address Country Region City Latitude/ Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone 77.40.94.165 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637 47.871 - +04:00 Net Speed ISP Domain DSL OJSC VOLGATELECOM RELINFO.RU IDD Code Area Code Weather Station 7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK ** IP Information - 77.40.94.165IP address: 77.40.94.165 Reverse DNS: 165.94.pppoe.mari-el.ru. Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified] ASN: 5591 ASN Name: MARTELCOM-AS (Mari El Net) IP range connectivity: 2 Registrar (per ASN): RIPE Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation] Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles] Country IP Range: 77.40.0.0 to 77.40.127.255 Country fraud profile: High City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation] Private (internal) IP? No IP address registrar: whois.arin.net Known Proxy? No Link for WHOIS: 77.40.94.165 ** http://www.trusteds..40.94.165 ** http://www.projecth..40.94.165 Keywords:

2009-11-03, 10:19:01

[hidden] from Brazil

I'm keeping on touch wth a lady from uadremas.com. I've talked to her for 2 months. She speaks english (not necessary translator) from Poltava and send me photos in your job and with family. I 've a question. How do I discover if she is a scammer or not?? Since now, I thaks attention. I don't want to spend time and money!!!

2009-11-03, 12:26:52

wanwan from Japan

@2009-11-03, 10:19:01 [hidden] from Brazil 1) open her mail header,please. 2) see the X-mailer. Do you find a x-mailer '' The Bat '' or not ? 3) look up her sender IP address 4) Googling her e-mail address 5) search for her photo on Google

2009-11-03, 13:33:50

OJAS from United States

@Brasiliero, http://www.delphifa..332.shtml http://www.delphifa..3930.shtml

2009-11-03, 18:56:55

Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands

Wanwan, Victoria Adam is lilialovekiss@rambler.ru ??? http://www.tineye.c..79ea14963 Keywords:

2009-11-03, 19:47:49

OJAS from United States

Is Victoria Adam = Victoria Beckham? http://celebritybea..y-products

2009-11-03, 21:18:14   (updated: 2009-11-03, 21:19:05)

wanwan from Japan

@Dirk & OJAS Thank you for your advices. My explanations of Lilia are not enough . It is a photoshoped photo. Please see this photo below. Keywords:

2009-11-03, 21:18:14   (updated: 2009-11-03, 21:35:49)

wanwan from Japan

@Dirk & OJAS Thank you for your advices. My explanations of Lilia(Liliya) are not enough . It is a photoshoped photo. Please see this photo above ↑.

2009-11-03, 21:26:47

wanwan from Japan

http://en.wikipedia..a_Beckham http://en.wikipedia..id_Beckham Keywords:

2009-11-04, 01:32:26   (updated: 2009-11-04, 01:39:03)

RealMadrid from Spain

@[hidden] from Brazil My advice after 22 months with uadreams is protect your emotions first and at the same time wallet. Tell her that you are coming next month and if she tell you that she has got a job abroad etc. definitely forget it She is probably marrried see http://bit.ly/chX9Q Meu conselho depois de 22 meses com uadreams é proteger suas emoções primeira carteira e, ao mesmo tempo. Diga a ela que você está vindo no próximo mês e se ela te dizer que ela tem um emprego no estrangeiro e assim por diante. definitivamente esquecê-lo Ela é provavelmente casado ver http://bit.ly/chX9Q http://myualadysexp..spot.com/ http://en.gimeney.n..opic=1327 http://www.delphifa..#comments Saludos de España ps Se você tiver provas de fraude deve informar imediatamente ao Governador de Gibraltar

2009-11-04, 02:42:41

RealMadrid from Spain

@[hidden] from Brazil My advice after 22 months with uadreams is protect your emotions first and at the same time wallet. Tell her that you are coming next month and if she tell you that she has got a job abroad etc. definitely forget it She is probably marrried see http://bit.ly/chX9Q Meu conselho depois de 22 meses com uadreams é proteger suas emoções primeira carteira e, ao mesmo tempo. Diga a ela que você está vindo no próximo mês e se ela te dizer que ela tem um emprego no estrangeiro e assim por diante. definitivamente esquecê-lo Ela é provavelmente casado ver http://bit.ly/chX9Q http://myualadysexp..spot.com/ http://en.gimeney.n..opic=1327 http://www.delphifa..#comments Saludos de España ps Se você tiver provas de fraude deve informar imediatamente ao Governador de Gibraltar. If you write more about your uadreams.com (bad) experience suggest you post it here http://www.delphifa..l#comments

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