Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
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Lynn from Romania
With havin so much content do you ever run into any issues of plagorism or
copyright violation? My website has a lot of exclusive content I've either written myself or
outsourced but it seems a lot of it is popping it up all over
the internet without my permission. Do you know any techniques to
help reduce content from being stolen? I'd truly appreciate it.
anonymous from United States
What If you spoke to them over the phone
anonymous from United States
I've been talking to a girl for almost a year and we have spoke on the phone. She dose look to good to be true but, her profile doesn't seem fake and we've discussed everything from children to wine...
DOC from United States
Anonymous, l had talked to my scammer on the phone or at least it was a woman I'm sure it was not the woman on the photos. My advice is to be careful and don't send any money!
Alex1976din from Israel
Very dangerouse Scam lady from Ukraine Hodaya Eden Batel d.o.b.08/17/1980 lives and rents in city Holon Israel ! On her hands a lots of innocent man for the money and the gift's, shd is technichly extorted money and tge gifts from the variouse dating websaite's ! Israeli citizen, went trogh giur !!! Mean's during when she was brought from Ukraine by her 1-st official husbend, she has went trough giur, 1-year was visiting 4-5 day's a week for 3-houres to become a jewish lady ! After she legalize herself and got the darkon a Israelu passport, she has divorsed her husbsnd ! 8 years ago was working in super market as a Cashier calked 1/2 hinami !!! 7-years ago was brought in the Abarbanelly phsichiatrick department and 1/2 -year intengionally played game's to got every month a disability on the shezoprenia documdnt basis !!! Why she need to work, when she kbewed wad apoear preatty, and start to cheat Scam a man on the variouse dating web-saites including American as well !!! I am her big time victim, for the money and thd gift's !!! She was askied money after few conversation, before the meeting !!! She played a modern religiouse !!! She creaye's for every her victim induvidyal story's to full and are convincing her victim's on the very high proffessional level !!! She is a criminale, and she must be persecuted by tge law !!! She has got U.S. Visa about 3-years ago, somwhere in 2014th from the bucharian New jersey resident, and planing to live Israel by the November of the 2017th !! She is planing to faje maridge on money basis work illegally than legally for her foxy sneaky umbrella to cheat Amerucan's and defraud every system as maximume as possible !!!
Alex1976din from Israel
Proffessional ukrainian Scamer jodaya Eden Batel !!! Her picture's and search her on Yandev.ru Israel hodaya 36 was registered on the variouse internet dating web-saite's are planning to Visit 1-st time in the U.S. on the November 2017th stay and kegalise herself in the U.S. maridge fake !! Than to defraude dverything and everybody as posdible !!! Her Vusa must bs revoked for the kindness sake !!!
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