Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
wanwan: You may use my final kiss off letter I posted. Just be sure you change the name in the kiss-off from Mariya to whomever you are playing with.
wanwan from Japan
Hi my friend CPH !!
Thank you for your kind words.
When I read your final kiss russian version,
I think it is very good one.
Do you study Russian in Univ.?
Now I have many pervert russian crazy scammers in my mail box.
So I am very busy .
I love your final kiss russian version,
and it helps me very much.
Thank you,my friend CPH!
I try to bust them with your final kiss.
see soon!! This image was also posted here: Dating scammer Nancy Milman from Accra, Ghana Dating scammer Snezhanna Babyi Dating scammer Terry Antonio (Wilson)
wanwan from Japan
Hi,my friend Doc !! I love your posts,and I love your nice pictures !!
I know you have good posts on this web site and saving many peoples.
Especially you support Magnus. Magnus says '' Russian scammer Anna,
Anahit destroy my life !!'',,,I am very sad to hear his story on this web .
You ,Doc now support him,help him,suggest him,advice him.
It is a beautiful friendship !!You are a beautiful american man like agent86,OJAS.
So I respect you ,Doc!
And you already know that pervert russian scammer Yuliya(Boris)now is
making an attack against our great Dirk.Dirk is a great contributor on this web site,
he is saving many peoples in the world !!We must support him.So my Doc,
please give us your hands!!Together try to bust pervert russian scammers,
419 african frauds !
By the way now in my mail box,,,there are many 419 african frauds.
And I have a pen-pal,her name is Nana in Ghana.For a long time,
I am corresponding wih Nana.Sure I watch out her.She never ask for $$$,
and she doesn't send her picture.Everytime she talks about her mother land Ghana,
culture,arts,football,UEFA Champions League,,,.I can not judge what she is a fraud
or not.Then today ,suddenly she has sent me her photo! Please see it !!
It is a Raven Riley !!!!! I laugh my head off to see it !!!!
My pen-pal is a Raven Riley,,,,porn star !! ha,ha,ha,ha,,,,,.
I have known Raven Riley,but I now pretend to be an innocent american man.
In my mail I say '' I love you ,I need you ,I give my kiss,sssssssssssssssssssssss!! ''
I try to tease her,because Nana is an african scammer.
Now I am making a funny fabrication scenario.
I try to scam her,tease her,and try to rob her of forged passport,visa,ID card.
My friend Doc ,please give me your hands!
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firstname.lastname@example.org from United States
This Is Scammer E-Mail,GOLDENFISH847@YAHOO.COM--STEALIN 'NASTYA'S' SCAM--BABY GET AHOLD OF ME,I STILL WANT THAT PICTURE!--ANTHONY
Hello wanwan, I read your writing I am thankful for it. I am happy to try to help and support Magnus,your very helpful to him also. I know that he is calmed and thankful for everyones help. I see that you have been working hard to expose crazy scammers. Thanks for your work I wish that there was no such thing as scamming it is a very evil thing.
I read that your pen pal is Raven Riley porn star. LOL.You sure are lucky!! HAHA
Thank you for your advice!
But impossible !
Some pictures ,it is possible to post on .
but several pictures ,it is impossible to post on.
The digital data of pictures is different ?
I don't know the reason.
Thank you for your time ,OJAS
email@example.com from United States
Wanwan- try changing the pictures to JPEG format, they might load. Rick