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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-05-31, 08:54:30
OJAS from United States  
@wanwan 2009-05-30, 21:58:26, http://www.delphifa..901.shtml
See you with this girl there! ;)
2009-05-31, 12:50:50
wanwan from Japan  
Now she lives in '' City of Brides Com '',be caref! !
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Good afternoon xxx. Whether all at you is good, I hope, that at you all just fine. From
the beginning of the letter, I would like to tell to you, that it is pleasant to me to
correspond with you and to learn about each other. With each letter we learn about each
other more and for me it became very interesting, I do not wish to hide from you that I am
very interested by our acquaintance, and I hope, as you are interested by our
acquaintance.

I would like to tell to you, that sometimes I dream, and here yesterday I have fallen into
a reverie about the future and imagined, as it will be. I imagined how I live with the
favourite husband and children, in the house how children run on the house how I with the
husband sit at a table and I have supper, and to me was so well, I cannot explain these my
dreams, but I think, that this all of that I alone and do not have anybody with me a
beside, but I am assured, that in the near future, at me all will be good also I shall be
happy, certainly now is difficult this all to tell, and can be when that we shall be
together, but for this purpose to us is necessary more to learn each other, I hope, that
you will not be against and agree with me, certainly if our ideas miss, to me would be
desirable to learn and your opinion, what you think of the future? For me it is very
important also I think, that it is necessary to talk about this.

xxx, I hope, that you have closely read through my letter and will answer him, that I
have written all to you, for me it is necessary for knowing, I with impatience shall wait
your letter and I still would wish to tell to you in the end of the letter that I have
started to get used to receive from you letters and now it seems to me, that if you will
cease to write to me I in a life will not be have not enough that that. I wait your
letter. I wish you good mooMaria
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From: marlemesheva <marlemesheva@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! . 62r)
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Sender 18.10.13.46


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
18.10.13.46 UNITED STATES MASSACHUSETTS CAMBRIDGE 42.3729
-71.1063 02138 -05:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY MIT.EDU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 617/857 (USMA0066) CAMBRIDGE





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
212.67.15.184 RUSSIAN FEDERATION NOVGOROD NOVGOROD 42.65
130.803 - +03:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL SOCIETY WITH LIMITED LIABILITY LANSERVICE -

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0392) POS'ET





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.218.168 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94035 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.218.168 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94035 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.218.168 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94035 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
18.10.13.47 UNITED STATES MASSACHUSETTS CAMBRIDGE 42.3729
-71.1063 02138 -05:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY MIT.EDU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 617/857 (USMA0066) CAMBRIDGE





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.218.168 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94035 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW







Receiv
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18.10.13.46
http://www.projecth...10.13.46
18.10.13.46
We don't have data on this IP currently. If you know something, you may leave a comment.
Geographic Location United States (Cambridge, Massachusetts
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212.67.15.184
http://www.projecth..67.15.184
212.67.15.184
Geographic Location Russia (Novgorod, Primor'ye

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First Received From approximately 2 months, 5 weeks ago
Last Received From within 2 months, 1 week
Number Received 6 email(s) sent from this I

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Dictionary Attacks 2 email(s) sent from this IP
First Received From approximately 2 months, 4 weeks ago
Last Received From within 2 months, 4 week
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Hello xxx. To me was so pleasantly to receive from you the letter, unfortunately my first
letter was brief, but in my following letters I shall try to write more to you about
myself and I hope, that you as will speak me about yourselves. I live in the city of
Kazan, it is in Russia in republic Tatarstan, I have lead the childhood in children's
home, but 5 years I lived with my mum but when it did not become, me have sent in
children's home, these times, for me were very heavy, I woke up at the nights and called
mum, but it any more was not, in the course of time I have reconciled to it and now I live
one. I as would like to learn and your life, about your family, I hope, that you will
write to me, I would like to learn more about each other, I hope, that you will not give
up to me in this.

Now I work in hospital as the nurse, I have chosen this trade because when doctors could
not save my mum, I have told to myself, that when I shall grow, I shall become the doctor,
but I could will be disaccustomed only on the nurse, I tried to arrive studies in
institute, but unfortunately, it has appeared for me very expensive and then I had to
continue training in college, but I do not regret that has chosen this trade, I hope, that
I can shortly arrive studies in the maximum institution, certainly with me will not leave
also my dream, it to receive formation and a trade of the doctor abroad, I think, that I
can overcome all this, me very much would be desirable to help sick people to bring it
what that pleasure, I hope, that you with me agree, in fact to help people, it is very
good and what work at you, than you be engaged, me will be pleasant to learn about this.
Today in the morning when I stood at a stop, 3 buses have again passed by, and any has not
stopped. In everyone to people - as herring in a flank. Naturally, for work was late, and
here the chief: What, Maria, again buses did not stop? It was necessary to tell, that
neighbours from above have flooded. And what interesting cases happen at you, as it will
be interesting to me to listen. As I would like to see more than your photos and number of
your phone, unfortunately I have no phone now, I want to speak with you and I shall call
you. I am glad, that we friends. I with impatience shall expect your letter, yofriend
Maria
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Sender 15.13.56.01


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
15.13.56.01 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA PALO ALTO 37.4404
-122.14 94304 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY HP.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0830) PALO ALTO





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
93.81.31.57 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSCOW CITY MOSCOW 55.75
37.583 - +03:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL BROADBAND CUSTOMERS IN ST. PETERSBURG CORBINA.RU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.220.159 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94035 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.220.159 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94035 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.220.159 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94035 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
15.13.56.13 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA PALO ALTO 37.4404
-122.14 94304 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY HP.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0830) PALO ALTO





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.220.159 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94035 -08:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW

Receiver

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15.13.56.01
http://www.projecth..5.13.56.1
(Very interesting result,so read this one as follows:)
15.13.56.1
We don't have data on this IP currently. If you know something, you may leave a comment.
Geographic Location France (Grenoble, Rhone-Alpes)

γ€Œ15.13.56.01」is from USA,
γ€Œ15.13.56. 1」 is from France.
Interestin,

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93.81.31.57
'' Unknown ''
http://www.projecth...81. 57
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(this is a final mail.This Boris has a hot temper !!!! calm down)

In the last letter I have set to you many questions, but you have not answered me, I have
understood that you simply play with me, you do not love me. Happily.





Sender 18.10.13.46
IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
18.10.13.46 UNITED STATES MASSACHUSETTS CAMBRIDGE 42.3729
-71.1063 02138 -05:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY MIT.EDU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 617/857 (USMA0066) CAMBRIDGE


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
212.67.15.184 RUSSIAN FEDERATION NOVGOROD NOVGOROD 42.65
130.803 - +03:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL SOCIETY WITH LIMITED LIABILITY LANSERVICE -

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0392) POS'ET
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18.10.13.46
http://www.projecth...10.13.46
18.10.13.46
We don't have data on this IP currently. If you know something, you may leave a comment.
Geographic Location United States (Cambridge, Massachusetts)


212.67.15.184
http://www.projecth..67.15.184
Geographic Location Russia (Novgorod, Primor'ye

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First Received From approximately 2 months, 5 weeks ago
Last Received From within 2 months, 1 week
Number Received 6 email(s) sent from this I

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Dictionary Attacks 2 email(s) sent from this IP
First Received From approximately 2 months, 4 weeks ago
Last Received From within 2 months, 4 week

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( I tried sending my '' scam '' mail ,but she never sent me again. I miss you )































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2009-05-31, 12:59:28
wanwan from Japan  
You already know this website '' City of Brides Com '' is too bad.
So now I call this one '' Not City of Brides Com '' but '' City of Scam Com '' ,,,,,,,
thank you !!


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2009-05-31, 13:01:46
wanwan from Japan  
City of Scam Com


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2009-05-31, 13:04:13
wanwan from Japan  
She has a hot temper.
But it is not good to your scam business.


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2009-05-31, 16:31:26
anonymous from United Kingdom  
This is one that took about 3 weeks to try and get to me I knew her as Irina and as usual she only read the first email so I sebt her garbage in the rest.


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2009-05-31, 17:10:42
wanwan from Japan  
2009-05-31, 17:18:20
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-05-31, 16:31:26
anonymous from United Kingdom

Thanks a lot !!
Mr.Anon UK !

She doesn't like me???
So she doesn't write to me.
2009-06-01, 16:39:24
anonymous from United States  
rating
what's the objective of the scammer, it makes no sense.
2009-06-01, 19:39:20   (updated: 2009-06-01, 19:48:10)
DOC from United States  
Dating scammers objective:
Make the you fall in love with the girl in the photos.
They tell you they want to be with you.
Scam money for ''visa'' so ''she'' can be with you.
Scam money for ''plane tickets'' to be with you.
Scam ''show money'' for customs.
Then if you paid for all that, they come up with
another story why they need you to send more money.
That is just one type there are many.
One other is they try to get you to send money for
a translation service like $300 a month just to talk to ''her''.
Scammers main objective is to get you to send all your
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
2009-06-01, 22:29:42
anonymous from United States  
ok, what if they aren't asking for money, is that coming down the road.
2009-06-01, 22:29:55
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-06-01, 16:39:24
anonymous from United States

what's the objective of the scammer, it makes no sens
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I agree with Doc 500%.
Doc is right !!
So anon US,please listen to his words.

And scammer's objective is you.
But they don't want you ,want only your money.
They want your nest egg !!
Be careful !!
Never fall in love with a photo.
The photo is stolen .
The scammer whom you love is not a girl but a boy !!
Be careful !
Objective is only your nest egg.
Terrible !!
I know your President can help GM,
but he can not help you .
Nobody can help you,so be careful !!
It is very important for you to know what the scam is !
I hope you can avoid scam,,,,,,,,,,
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2009-06-01, 23:59:23
DOC from United States  
@Anon US 2009 6-1 22:29:42

Scammers can be very patient. Some will
not directly ask you, but hint at it. http://www.delphifa..#comments
So in your emails does she answer all your
questions? If she ignores your questions
sometimes,that means shes not reading your letters
and its a scam. The photos you were sent,
very beautiful? Ask her for one with a certain thing
Like her holding the daily newspaper or something.
If she can not produce what you ask for, it is a scam.
Anon if it is a scam come back here and post her information
please. Becareful do not send money to someone you have not
met.
2009-06-02, 09:03:35
anonymous from Czech Republic  
rating



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2009-06-02, 12:09:31
DOC from United States  
Anon from Czech Republic,
Whats the scam?
She ask for money?
Could you post more info?
Name
Address
Email address
Phone number
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