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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-08-03, 10:51:35
*SCAM*HUNTER*JIM* from United States  
David,
That picture was taken in Italy. I took the name off the building in the background and ran a google search on it, and also ran it threw google earth. Yep, shes a scammer! I've just met some people who spend the who day scamming these scammers. They figure the more time they take away from the scammer the less time the scammer has to scam people! After i check these people out I will put there link here for us to use.
Joe, I now have contact with Sarah Parker. I am not sure what i am going to do with him yet. BUT, I WANT TO TRY A SETUP! Anything relevant you can tell me about him will help...
Wanwan, i see your having some fun too! We should really try and figure out how we can find these people . . . They belong in jail. Keep up the good work.

Jim




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2009-08-03, 11:15:22
JIM from United States  
Joe,
I almost forgot to tell you. I have been looking for businesses that can be done at home or on the computor also. There are many scams here to. When I find some good ones I'll let you know.

Jim


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2009-08-03, 12:06:30
***JOE*** from United States  
*SCAM*HUNTER*JIM*
I dont know what to tell you about a set up.what is she talking to about what is her story is the same story she gave me or is it something new? I do know that she will give answers to anything you ask. here is a copy of about the 3rd letter to me 'she is quick to offer any info.all you have to do is make like you believe everything she is saying.show her that you trust and believe her.ask her for some pictures.see if you get the same ones.

Dear Joe,
It's really nice hearing from you,here are some things you need to know about me.I was married for 3 and half years but now divorced without kids. I am feeling reluctant to tell you about my past but i think its good i let you know all about me and the situation i am into now so that it will not be too late before i let you know. I have had a lot of bad experience in my previous relationships, and i do not want to fall into the same problem anymore, i will like you to give me your words that you really want me and that you want to make a new life with me, because i have been used and suffered lots of emotional torture from my ex and i will not want to be used or played games with again in my life. I am telling you all this,so you can decide if you still want to meet me or not, so that we will not waste each other's time writing each other. when you get this mail,kindly give me a response to let me know if you are interested or not.I used to be my dad's personal assistance before he died but i dont have any job for now.

We used to live in a big house.Its so sad when ever i think and come to conclusion that the world is a cruel one,taking the good ones away,leaving the bad ones behind to live on which makes the world goes more cruel and hard on people,this has dawn on me as i have experienced lots of cruel things i never thought of. Sometimes i feel like the world should crash on me,looking back and thoughts about my status as an orphan.i need someone to fill my heart with love,someone to make me feel glad,taking me out of my worries,giving me love,someone to stand by me like a father and mother,someone so loving and caring to get me out of my worries so i dont feel neglected,rejected. My husband, Dale Kuntz played games on me lots and treated me so bad in our marriage.He absconded with my dad's money which was kept with me after a completion of a contract in EAST london,UK, this brought the first brokeup between me and my dad, because he thought i and my husband had the deal together, but not knowing that i'm innocent about this. So my dad has been harsh and tough on me about this. After all these happened to me and caused by my Ex Husband,i met an African guy who promised me heaven and earth that he wants to marry me and make me happy in life; 'I never knew I was going to have my greatest night mare.He made use of the advantage knowing that i am lonely and i needed someone so close to make me happy in life as my dad and mum which they are dead now and i am the only child of my parents,that was what made my aunties and uncle's wanted me dead.

The black guy told me of an investment opportunities in Africa and he convinced me to come along with lots of money while coming down, which i did. On getting here, all his intention was to take away the money from me, play me and leave me alone. I came from the states with all the money i realised from my Dad's business and contracts renumeration,because the african guy told me of an idea to investment in African Antiques which i feel its a good investment.When i got here, he tried all possible means to get the money from me and get away with my money.When i noticed this,i took the money and my travelling boxes and deposited it with a Shipping/Insurance Company here in Africa in order to save myself and my assets. Thereafter i left the guy's apartment to a new apartment where i stay at the moment and communicating with you now. Therefore, i don't want to fall into any other terrible situation again after all these that i experienced with my Ex because i am not ready to be down emotionally this time,which makes me too cautious of who i will go out with or date this time. I will need some words from you, which will prove to me about your interest in me and what exactly you want out of this relationship.I need someone in my life,someone so loving,open minded,truthful and real since i would be coming back to the states as soon as possible you want me to, provided you would treat me and fill me with the love i have always wanted.I know that there is more meeting one on one than making promises or talks via emails,we need to meet and thats why i want to come over provided you wont disappoint me.Trust can be given,but depends if one has got that,cos what you dont have you dont give.I would want us to build trust so that we can be able to work things out together.

Well, let me hang on here till i hear from you. I hope you will understand my situation at this time and i hope you will be able to offer a caring and loving arm. I need someone so loving and caring,honest,open minded,someone that hasnt come to play games because i wont treat people the way i dont want to be treated. They say it feels good loving somebody and having it reciprocated.i need someone to love and to be loved in return. I need a man that would always be there for me, who will be a good husband to me,i will reciprocate true LOVE as well.

I will be very greatful reading from you by telling me the truth about you and maybe you are interested in me or not.Tell me all you got on your mind.
Take care loads.......
Sarah.
2009-08-03, 12:41:37
JIM from United States  
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JOE,
THANK YOU MUCH. I AM GETTING PARTS AND PIECES OF THIS SAME STORY NOW. HE/SHE WANTED TO SEND IT TO ME BECAUSE HE SAID WOULD TAKE TO LONG TO TELL ME. I WANTED TO SET UP A NEW EMAIL ACCOUNT JUST FOR HIM! SO I STALLED. THIS WILL GIVE ME A HEADS UP AND HEAD START ON WERE THIS GUY IS GOING WITH ME. WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES.
JIM
2009-08-03, 17:13:21
OJAS from United States  
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Look into this ...
2009-08-03, 23:14:07
***JOE*** from United States  
*SCAM*HUNTER*JIM*
WANWAN
what happen to you jim ? Did not hear anything.is all ok
2009-08-03, 23:48:41
wanwan from Japan  
@Joe

I guess Jim will come back on Monday.
Don't worry.


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2009-08-04, 00:03:51
anonymous from Brazil  


Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:08:25 -0800
From: carinalevi@yahoo.com
Subject: MY DEAR I AM WAITING TO HEAR FROM YOU
To: jlimrjc@.com

My Dearest Sweet Darling

I am very very happy to see your reply to my mail.

How are you today? How was your night, hope fine? Mine is a little bit hot over here in Dakar Senegal. In this camp were we are not allowed to go out of the camp It's just like one staying in the prison and i hope by God's grace i will come out here soon.

I don't have any relatives now whom i can go to, all my relatives ran away in the middle of the war the only person i have now is Reverend Father Greg Odou, who is the Rev Father of ( St.Mary's Catholic Church) here, he has been very nice to me since i came here but i am not living with him rather i am leaving in the women's hostel because the camp have two hostels one for men the other for women.

The Rev Tel number is (00221-762-943-844)) When you call tell him that you want to speak with me he will send for me in the hostel.
As a refugee here i don't have any right or privilege to any thing because it is against the law of this country.I want to go back to my studies because i only attended my first year before the tragic incident that lead to my being in this situation now took place.

Listen to this i have my late father's statement of account and death certificate here with me which i will send to you latter,because when he was alive he deposited some amount of money in a leading bank in Europe which he used my name as the next of kin, so far this life is concern one man knowledge or idea can never make a real seance or direction until he or her meet the one who have a vision conscience and fear of God in him and higher and matured than him or her in knowledge and divine wisdom , because in life you cannot move forward unless you seek for him that is higher than you in wisdom,knowledge and understanding of this present life i believe by the fear of God and his divine conscience that is in you the i entrust my hope and my future in your care i know that God will use you to make a way for me remember being white or black doesn't matter but one good turn deserve another be a light for others for them to see through you. this is the amount in question is $4.5M (Four Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars).

So i will like you to help me transfer this money to your account and from it you can send some money for me to get my travelling documents and air ticket to come over to meet with you.
I kept this secret to people in this camp here the only person that knows about it is the Reverend because he is like a father to me.because i am afraid to loose this money if they gets to know about it. So, in the light of above i will like you to keep it to yourself and don't tell it to anyone for i am afraid of loosing my life and the money if people gets to know about it.
Remember i am giving you all this information due to the trust i deposited on you.I like honest and understanding people,truthful and a man of vision,truth and hardworking.
My favorite language is English.
Mean while i will like you to call me when you have chance, Because i have alot to tell you.Have a nice day and think about me.
Am waiting to hear from you soonest
Yours forever in love
Miss Carina
2009-08-04, 09:20:45
wanwan from Japan  
Today I give you an old TV show '' Twilight Zone ''
Today's theme '' Russian Scam ''
A character actress=Elena Antipina(an incorrigible ham )
fan e-mail to :'elenstrawberry' <elenstrawberry@yahoo.com>
The Mailer:X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091




(I played stupid and I asked for her '' flight plans from Russia to USA ''.Her travel agency asked for money so I asked for ''Other'' passport,,,,,,.)

Hello dear Pee!!. Excuse for so late answer. Today I had to wait our director and to solve with it a question concerning translation of money resources to our travel agency. It to me has told, that I have no right to prosecute financial subjects as for this purpose there is our bookkeeper and that all financial questions should be solved with it as it bears for it the responsibility. I very much value the work and on this unfortunately I cannot receive your money resources. Director has told, that if you want to order tickets you can send money addressed to our financial worker. I to you send a copy of my passport as I to you and promised. Once again excuse for so late answer, yours faithfully to you Dmitrii.

(I know my readers want to see the '' Domitrii's face '',,,,ho,ho,ho,,,ha,ha,ha,aaa,,,,Now I show you )





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2009-08-04, 09:54:16
wanwan from Japan  



Today I give you an old TV show '' Twilight Zone ''
Today's theme '' Russian Scam ''
A character actress=Elena Antipina(an incorrigible ham )
fan e-mail to :'elenstrawberry' <elenstrawberry@yahoo.com>
The Mailer:X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091





(The Death Cry )

Hello my loved Pee!!! How your affairs? Why you do not write me of
the letter? Today to me informed, that I need to come in travel
agency. I went to travel agency, there was to many people, probably
because now summer and everyone go to have a rest. Lovely I too very
much want to arrive as soon as possible to you. In travel agency to me
have told, what it is necessary for you a copy of my passport and
after that you will translate money for my tickets? I very much was
delighted when have learned this news. It means, that already
absolutely soon we with you shall together. Lovely we so for a long
time waited for this moment and now at last our meeting soon will
come. My loved I very much frequently present ours with you the first
meeting at the airport. I think, that when I shall see you, I at once
shall strong embrace you and on my eyes tears will appear. But I want,
that you would not pay to it attention because it there will be tears
of pleasure. We at last can talk to you, looking each other in eyes. I
can tell to you, that I love you looking in your eyes. Lovely now it
probably my one of not many dream. On it I shall finish my letter.
With love and tenderness, yours El.







Lovelyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Why you have ceased to write me
letters? Write to me please. I very much wait for your letter...






(I gave Domitrii my ''SCAM '' mail.)
Dear Sir,
Just now I have got your important documents,thanks.
Then I will remit to you by MoneyGram immediately.
I will send you a ZIP file and I will fill in all info on that zip file.
So please open that zip file to which I will send you .
And I will choose the option'' test question and answer ''
'' 8 digit MTCN '',of course I will send you that info by zip file.
When you will receive my money ,please email me back,OK?
from American Pee

I appreciate your good job,thanks








Hello dear Pee!!! I at once want you to tell, that you would not send money for my nameplate data. As I already spoke you yesterday, I would not have such powers what to receive money. I very much value the work and on this I shall not receive money if you will send them for my name. As I already spoke you at us for this purpose there is a bookkeeper which prosecutes financial subjects. Now I to you of ladies its data, that you could transfer money to our bookkeeper. Its name Porochina Tatyana. You can send money for its name and she will receive them, after money will be listed, we shall reserve tickets for Elena. I hope, that I have in detail explained all to you. Yours faithfully to you the manager of travel agency Dmitrii.









Hello dear Pee. At once I want to tell to you, that we shall necessarily send to you a copy of the passport of our bookkeeper Porochina of Tatyana. We as would like, that you would send us a copy of your passport because we cannot receive money which you will send not knowing your personal information. As I would would like that you have sent us your phone number, for that that we could call to you and discuss details of flight for Elena, and as translation of money resources to our travel agency by phone. Yours faithfully to you the manager of travel agency Dmitrii.

(Our? Domitrii asked for my passport copy !''Nuts to you!'')


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2009-08-04, 09:58:49   (updated: 2009-08-04, 09:59:26)
wanwan from Japan  
Today I give you an old TV show '' Twilight Zone ''
Today's theme '' Russian Scam ''
A character actress=Elena Antipina(an incorrigible ham )
fan e-mail to :'elenstrawberry' <elenstrawberry@yahoo.com>
The Mailer:X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091




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2009-08-04, 10:00:43   (updated: 2009-08-04, 10:01:23)
wanwan from Japan  
Today I give you an old TV show '' Twilight Zone ''
Today's theme '' Russian Scam ''
A character actress=Elena Antipina(an incorrigible ham )
fan e-mail to :'elenstrawberry' <elenstrawberry@yahoo.com>
The Mailer:X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091




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2009-08-04, 10:02:12
wawan from Japan  
Today I give you an old TV show '' Twilight Zone ''
Today's theme '' Russian Scam ''
A character actress=Elena Antipina(an incorrigible ham )
fan e-mail to :'elenstrawberry' <elenstrawberry@yahoo.com>
The Mailer:X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091


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2009-08-04, 10:02:54
wanwan from Japan  
Today I give you an old TV show '' Twilight Zone ''
Today's theme '' Russian Scam ''
A character actress=Elena Antipina(an incorrigible ham )
fan e-mail to :'elenstrawberry' <elenstrawberry@yahoo.com>
The Mailer:X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091




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2009-08-04, 10:03:34
wanwan from Japan  
Today I give you an old TV show '' Twilight Zone ''
Today's theme '' Russian Scam ''
A character actress=Elena Antipina(an incorrigible ham )
fan e-mail to :'elenstrawberry' <elenstrawberry@yahoo.com>
The Mailer:X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.04.7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091




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