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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-11-12, 12:55:43
Real Madrid from Spain  
Hola JJ

La misma chica o debe decir gay!

Saludos de Andalucía
2009-11-12, 13:33:04
DUCATI from Spain  
2009-11-12, 13:34:42
DUCATI from Spain  

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2009-11-12, 13:49:57
OJAS from United States  
@DUCATI,
Gracias amigo, for joining forces. The more bilingual contributors, the better. Unfortunately some native Spanish speakers may not read English threads, but, they may feel comfortable, discussing in Spanish.

Borises work in gangs of 15-25 http://cheboksaryru..ian-scams
The more eyes watching them, the more languages they get exposed, the better.

Keep up your good work!
2009-11-12, 15:01:50
WW from Japan  
Thanks!
He is a paranoid spammer but he has gone !
Thank you for your time(bupkus).


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2009-11-12, 15:03:13
WW from Japan  
Thanks David !

A paranoid spammer has gone !


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2009-11-12, 17:53:56
Miss Marple from Sweden  
@WANWAN

Here you have the perfect math terms
its very easy as you can see..(LOL)..
everybody can learn MATHS..even you my friend...

All regards// Miss Marple//
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2009-11-12, 20:30:54   (updated: 2009-11-12, 20:47:58)
David from United States  
Ok people, I need some real help. (The wife says I need real mental help. Ah, the joys of marriage). Anyway, I got this email in my inbox. I checked the western union using the MCTN and it says the money is there. A new kind of scam? I don't know this guy. But hell, if someone wants to send me money out of the blue ..........
I emailed him I though he was being scammed by some girl in Russia. If I get a reply I will tell him about this site or give him what info I can.
David.
I gave you money with you for our life. I very much hope that you'll
actually pay for your Visa. This is the last time
when I am sending you help. As I handed over 3700 you must
understand that this is big money for me. And I took the credit. Please be reasonable.
Get your money tomorrow morning.
You can watch the activation of the transfer of money online westernunion. com
can check that the transfer of money made and it is ready to receive.
Check westernunion. com and as soon as the money will be active for you
immediately receive and make payment.
Money data 2300 $ usd MTCN: 1650222027 SENDER: PEDRO MOLINA
I send you my id and copy my documents attach arx files. Check on the westernunion. com
and you will be sure that I am not kidding you.! I'm tired of listening to your
accusations.!
Waiting for your reasonable response.
> Hello my beast men. I am waiting for your letter and correct information about the
> transfer of money.
> I have very little time for what would have time to change the date of my arrival to
> you.
> For this I need the money. I am waiting for your response and hope for your
> understanding.
Your girl from Russia kiss you.
2009-11-13, 02:45:48
WW from Japan  
@David

Notice !

copy my documents attach arx files


It is a ZIP file?
If so,it may be a malicious trojan.
If that Russian girl wants the guy to click files,
never click files.Suspicious !

Please ask him on those suspicious files.
Is it a ZIP or not ?
Never click ZIP files(Trojans).
2009-11-13, 03:05:10
WW from Japan  
@miss marple

You gave me a hard question,LOL !
I show you my ability,
10+10=21 ,,,,,,,

I could not find '' X '' ,so I asked my teacher '' Pythagoras '' on your question.
But my '' Pythagoras '' said '' I also can not find X '',,,,,,,.

I see you are so smart because you can find '' X ''.

From Math allergy in Japan

mata-ne (X = 5 )


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2009-11-13, 07:16:22
007 from United Kingdom  
The Golden Rule when doing your financial and other calculations is:

SEND NO MONEY!!!

OK??

007
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2009-11-13, 08:11:51
WW from Japan  
2009-11-13, 09:42:19
David from United States  
Not to worry wanwan. I didn't open the attachment. It was a RAR file and I'm to smart for that.
2009-11-13, 10:31:18
Magnus from Huddinge, Sweden  
dating scammer armenian connection
2009-11-13, 11:37:13
David from United States  
Magnus from Huddinge, Sweden

Why do you have to make the same post on every thread seven and eight times? People here are smart enough to know already.
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